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It's an interesting point to think about.

But my first thought was what would happen if you accidentally let a troll into your group. ie, someone who enjoys yelling "change" just to watch everyone else jump.

Heck, that person might be genuinely unhappy unless everyone is changing! Add in someone else who hates all change, and you have an unresolvable contradiction.



There is no such thing as a troll, they are fictional creatures. I'm talking about humans.

>Add in someone else who hates all change, and you have an unresolvable contradiction.

No, you have a meta-problem. One that can be solved by a suitable virtual reality pretty handily.


I'm aware that bridge-dwelling, toll-collecting trolls do not exist. I was referring to an internet-style troll, "a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people... with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. ... Media attention in recent years has equated trolling with online harassment." [1]

If one person is only happy when things change, and someone else is only happen when they don't change, I don't see how there is any way to resolve the difference. I'm curious what solution you see for this, and especially in how a virtual reality would help.

[1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29


Yes, I know what you meant. I was being facetious, as I don't approve of the implication that 'trolls' are somehow fundamentally different from other people. There is no law of nature that says "if someone is a troll, they will never be happy unless others are unhappy." That's not a fact, and I'm not willing to pretend it is.

Either way, I've already given you a potential solution to that problem, and I see no reason to elaborate further. Use your imagination.


When I was writing my previous comment I was wondering if I was being trolled. Too bad I was right.


Oh, I see what you were saying. You were saying that you can know everything there is to know about a person from a few posts on the internet. No wonder you believe in trolls.

But If I were to follow that line of reasoning, I would be forced to conclude that your incompetence here is simply an innate part of your being. But I don't believe that, even if you think I should.

So try to do a little better, ok?


You're the only one here who seems to believe that "troll" is an indelible and unchanging character trait. I never said or implied that, and my point does not require it to be the case.

I find it difficult to believe that anyone could actually believe that, which is why I'm fairly certain you're trolling me. But I suppose it's possible that you're not particularly perceptive.

By the way, you still haven't mentioned your magical way to satisfy the conditions "X" and "Not X" (ie, "constantly changing" and "unchanging") at the same time.




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