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Look at the same specs for the cyber truck. There is about twice the carbon in the manufacturing of these, so it counts on people driving them for hundreds of thousands of miles, I don't see that happening with them because you can't even take a normal road trip while towing. These things just aren't going to see the miles, because they can't. They're just not usable as trucks.

https://insideevs.com/news/719434/tesla-cybertruck-awd-vs-ra...

Also the power plants and diesel generators for the data centers... https://www.selc.org/press-release/new-images-reveal-elon-mu...





Yeah the Cyber truck is no prize either for emissions. It's not a good alternative.

My understanding is the difference in carbon emission from manufacturing a BEV vs. an ICE vehicle is about 4 tons of carbon, roughly what you would get from 400 gallons of gasoline. So to make up the carbon deficit the BEV needs to drive about 8,000 miles assuming the ICE truck has above average highway MPG. This does assume the electricity comes from renewables though, if you have coal fired electricity then the figure may vary wildly.

8000 miles towing 10k lbs in a Cyber truck would be roughly 70 charging stops at an hour each

8000 miles towing 10k lbs in a diesel super duty would be 30 stops at 15 mins each.

That's 70 hours vs 7.5 hours. Every 8000 miles


I don't see how that is relevant to the discussion. Also if you are one if the low single digit percentage of people who do long distance towing regularly then yeah, get a diesel. I was talking more about people who live in the suburbs and commute to work and back in their truck, never tow anything, and use the bed maybe twice a year. About 67% of truck owners in the US.

It means cybertrucks and similar are not usable as trucks. They're only usable as vehicles that you shouldn't buy a truck for that use case for. If you need a truck to do actual truck things you can't use these. See this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nS0Fdayj8Y

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