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I get that; the cost of enforcement makes that likely negative (possibly even very negative) to the system.

My claim is letting trash act like, well, trash and street people wild out on the system drives lots of commuters off. And ime, the worst riders are disproportionally fare thieves.



> I get that; the cost of enforcement makes that likely negative (possibly even very negative) to the system.

Depends on prevailing social norms, I guess?


Oh it certainly does. America has let the requirements for behavior in our larger cities decay to openly allowing criminal behavior. It's wild.




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